Let’s say you run a company with a call center. And one day, at the end of a long shift, one of your reps gets a call from a confused customer. This customer is asking questions that even the most technically challenged person would laugh at. And your rep rolls his eyes. What would you do?

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The customer never saw the eye roll. Only you.

The rep answered all of the questions according to the book and the eye roll was understandable considering the ridiculous questions he was being asked. Plus, it had been a long day.

So, what would you do?

A fireable offense

At Headsets.com, that little eye roll is a fireable offense and they will enforce it.

I read about them recently in the book I Love You More Than My Dog by Jeanne Bliss, which is one of the best books on service I have ever read.

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In the book, CEO Mike Faith says, “The customer deserves our respect. Sometimes they could be wrong. But they always deserve our respect.” And he and his team enforce that rule to the point that if a rep rolls his eyes, huffs and puffs, or treats a customer in a way that is not 100% respectful, they fire him. Simple as that.

That is leadership. They are willing to do an extreme thing to ensure the company runs smoothly. They know that one eye roll from one team member is like kudzu in the south. It spreads quickly and before you know it, it’s everywhere.

Why it’s rarely enforced – a lesson in hiring and training

You’d think that if something as simple as an eye roll can get you fired, that Headsets.com would be firing people left and right. But it’s rarely enforced.


Because they are pickier than a 4-year old at a fancy restaurant when it comes to hiring. They don’t just screen people well and interview them well, they put them through intense tryouts and training.

How intense? Check out this glimpse at the hiring process:

  • Up to 8 interviews
  • Studied by a voice coach for warmth, tone, and empathy
  • Meet with a business psychologist to test for how they react in stressful situations
  • Grammar testing
  • Memory testing
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And after all that…more interviews to see if they fit into the culture.

Why all this testing, training, and interviewing? Because Headsets.com trusts their people to make the right decisions. They don’t have a rulebook. They have one simple rule: respect the customer and do what is right.

How can you trust someone who isn’t screened and trained? You can’t. So they go all out to make trust easy.

And they fire people who break that trust…even if it’s just a little, teensy, itty-bitty eye roll.

The bottom line

Only 1 in 30 people who get to the tryout phase are hired. That’s after the initial interviews weed out a large number of applicants. And you thought Harvard was selective.

The result is that Headsets.com grew from a $40,000 investment in 1998 to a $30,000,000 company ten years later…selling headsets.

All because they didn’t compromise their main principle: respect the customer.

As a leader, are you willing to put potential candidates through a rigorous hiring process?

Are you willing to wait an extra month or two or even six to find the right person?

Are you willing to train them, drill them and test them to the point that you can truly trust them with no rules?

If not, what is stopping you?

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7 thoughts on “Would You Fire Someone for This? | Headsets.com on Hiring & Firing

  1. Jana Botkin says:

    This makes me want to do business with Headsets.com!

    Their hiring process kind of reminds me of the process of finding a spouse – all those voices out there telling you to quit expecting perfection aren’t the ones who have to live with the compromises.

    1. Matt McWilliams says:

      Good example Jana! It should be very similar, but so many people (myself included in the past) treat it more like choosing someone to give a man a buzz cut.

      1. Jana Botkin says:

        That is a great analogy, Matt! Thanks for the grin.

  2. Joshua Rivers says:

    To be honest, this would be hard. I’d like to think that I would spend the time and energy necessary to get the right person for the job, but I tend to underestimate the help I need. So I would probably get myself over-committed and desperate. But hopefully, with the teaching I’ve received over the past two years, I’d see it a little sooner.

    1. Matt McWilliams says:

      Joshua, I think the big thing was for me was thinking through the following:

      What does it cost me (in time and money) to train someone?
      If that training is done right and they don’t perform, what did I lose?
      How much does it cost me to not have this person for 2-3 more months?

      When I realized that it cost more to hire, train, and then have to fire someone than to wait, I learned to wait.

      It’s hard with your first 5 hires, no doubt. When you go from a solopreneur to another team member, you have literally doubled your size. That is a crazy leap, unlike going from 50 to 51. But, even though it may seem like you can’t live without the help, make sure you are hiring right. Or just get a part-time VA to take off the workload in the meantime.

  3. justindirose says:

    Oh wow this is good. I work in a call center type environment. When the work is stressful, as most call centers are, it can be so easy to forget to respect the customer in your mind. Thoughts can turn to beliefs which can turn to actions. If a disrespectful thought can turn into a disrespectful action, yikes!

    Thanks for the reminder Matt!

    1. Matt McWilliams says:

      I can relate Justin. I’ve never worked in a call center but I’ve worked in customer service my whole life either for others or as a business owner. Isn’t ALL work serving someone after all?

      Truth is, I’d never get hired by Headsets.com. 🙂

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