When it comes to making money online, podcasting is one of THE best ways to do it. Podcasting provides you with an effective channel to build your brand. And allows you to get recognized for your expertise. But for an affiliate marketer, here’s the real gold. It’s one of the easiest ways to develop meaningful relationships with potentially huge affiliates. In this video, I’m going to show you How to Use Podcasting to Grow Your Affiliate Program.


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How to Use Podcasting to Grow Your Affiliate Program

Hello, everyone.

Today we’re going to talk about how to use podcasting to grow your affiliate program.

In other words, how to develop relationships. Get affiliates, scale your program using a podcast. How do you do that? That’s what we’re going to talk about today.

So whether you have a podcast or you don’t, this lesson today is for you. I’m going to show you how to capitalize on all the good stuff that a podcast can bring.

I’m going to share something kind of exciting, a couple of exciting things at the end of this today, one of which is that this is going to be our last one of these now, not our last ever live, but our last ever live single lesson. And I’ll explain that when we finish up here. But today we’re talking about how to use podcasting to grow your affiliate program.

For those of you when you drop a note in the comments, let me know if you already have a podcast. As you can tell, I’m in the office, not in the studio. And as you can tell, Alan is not on because he’s on his way, I believe, to see his wife’s favorite band tonight.

So they’re doing some traveling today. But for those of you who do have a podcast or you don’t just drop a note, say have a podcast, don’t have a podcast. You know that a podcast can be a great tool for, first of all, building authority. If you’ve got a podcast, you become like the instant authority or one of the instant authorities in that niche. It’s just the way things go.

I know for me, I’ve shared the story before. I won’t share the whole story again, but we named my podcast the Affiliate Guy Podcast. If you want to listen, by the way, you should go to mattmcwilliams.com/podcast and check that out. But we named it the Affiliate Guy Podcast.

There’s a whole story behind that that I won’t get into. But what happened, I noticed is like, people would literally just introduce me as the affiliate guy. That’s the affiliate guy. And then we started getting clients who were like, yeah, listen to your podcast and blah, blah, blah. And then the other day I was on a client call and I started to tell a story, and she’s like, yeah, I remember when you said that on your podcast.

And there was another one where I started to share a kind of philosophy, an idea. And he’s like, “yeah, I remember. He’s like, didn’t you just talk about that back in January on the podcast?” I am Like, “yeah, I think so. You know better than I do, apparently.” I don’t remember when I talked about that. It’s kind of weird.

Like what starts to happen when you have a podcast in terms of building authority. I really can’t think of anything else that does that. And part of that is if you think about how most people listen to podcasts, they listen to it on their phone.

They don’t listen to it most of the time on a computer, which seems a little bit more impersonal. That phone is probably in their pocket. This kind of sounds like it’s psycho babble. It’s not the phone next to them. It’s touching them. They’ve got earbuds in more than likely, not always, but more than likely they’ve got earbuds in, you’re literally in their head.

You’re literally in their head. They’re blocking out the whole rest of the world to listen to you. That’s a pretty unique thing compared to reading a blog. I’m not saying don’t have blog posts. We have thousands of blog posts. I’m not saying don’t have blog posts. I’m not saying that if you’re a writer, don’t write.

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m just talking as far as intimacy and authority, nothing tops the podcast, but it can also be used for affiliate recruiting. It can be used for building relationships. It can be used for creating long lasting affiliate partnerships and so much more.

That’s what we’re going to talk about today. So I’m going to walk you through step by step. I’m going to walk you step by step through how to do this thing, whether you already have a podcast or you don’t also stick around to the end, I’m going to share not only the process throughout this for getting really good guests.

This is what we’re going to talk about. How do we get great guests who turn into great affiliates? But I’m also going to share a really cool resource for podcasters from whether you’re a newbie or an expert. Robert says you’re in my head right now, Matt. Kind of creepy, man.

I guess you’re listening to me in the earbuds. Maria says, love your podcast. I’ve been listening to it for years. It’s awesome. And Connie as well. So thank you, guys. Connie says she does not have a podcast but wants to be a guest on podcast. Well, listen today.

I think you’ll glean some stuff from that, but I’m going to encourage you, Connie, to start a podcast. I’m going to walk through that today. How do we do this? How do we take a podcast and turn this into something that actually gets us good affiliates and grows our program? Number one, step number one, you need to identify potential guests.

So what you’re looking for here are experts, experts who are one or two notches above you or maybe at your level. One of the mistakes a lot of people make is like when you’re starting out, don’t go for the A list yet.

So I’m starting a podcast on personal growth. I’ll go get Tony Robbins. Don’t make that mistake. Go for people who are one or two notches above you. So if you’ve got a list of 5000 people, look for people that you think have a list of, say, ten to maybe 25,000 people.

If you’ve got a list of 5000, the person at 25,000 is not in a whole different League than you. If you’ve got 10,000 Instagram followers and somebody’s got 40,000, they’re not like in a whole different League. Somebody that’s got a million and a half Instagram followers, they’re in a totally different League.

I’m going to talk about how to possibly get some of those. But that’s not the focus today because we’re looking to turn them into affiliates. So we’re going to start small. We want to get some yeses. Again, a big mistake is people think I just got to get one whale.

If I want to grow my affiliate program, I just need one affiliate who can make like $200,000 in sales. That’s a huge mistake on so many levels. I’m not going to get into all the reasons. But number one, it’s probably not going to happen.

So it’s not going to happen most likely. Number two, even if you do get them, what if they come out of the gate and they do like a ton of sales for you real fast and it goes poorly for them or even if it goes well for them, but they don’t stick around for whatever reason.

They just don’t stick around. So now you’re dealing with losing that one affiliate who accounted for all of your sales. The other thing I’ve shared many times before is when you have a bunch of small affiliates, they become very loyal to you and you grow an army of affiliates over time.

So we’re not going to make the mistake of targeting like one big affiliate and trying to get them. I’ll talk about an example where you might do that a little bit later. But we want to get a bunch of small to medium sized fish, not a whale.

Step two is to find a reason for them to be a guest. So what are some reasons why somebody would be a guest? Why would somebody come on my podcast just starting out? I’ve got 57 listeners. Why would anybody want to be a guest on my podcast? Let me share the biggest reason, they have a book coming out.

They have a book and so I’m going to walk you through real quick. Here, let me go open this monitor over here and I’ll share it with you guys. I’m going to go to Amazon.com . You guys should see my screen there. I’m going to go to Amazon.com. I’m going to go here to read books and I’m going to just click on enter. It’ll just take me to the books.

There’s probably a faster way to get the books but I don’t know what it is and Maria said it right here. Why would somebody want to be on a podcast? Exposure for them. So again we’re trying to find a reason so if I’m looking up on Amazon right now, if I’m looking up on Amazon just got to find it over here real quick. I’m going to go to new releases coming soon. So it’s on the left side here.

New releases coming soon. Now let’s just say that I’m just going to pick a category. I’m going to do my category. I’m going to do business. I’m going to narrow it down from there. I’m going to go to the business and money category now.

Edmunds got a book coming out. I did not know that. And actually, I’m going to save that because I know who published this book. Let me just double check that. Actually, you guys get to see this live. So from there, what I’m going to do is narrow it down.

So mine typically are business development. I’m going to open that up in a new tab. And I think there’s usually one that’s like marketing and sales. Those are the two that are best for me. And I’m going to scroll through what are some authors that have stuff coming out that I might want to interview. Now, I’m always looking for number one.

Just to be clear, I’m looking number one for who would be great guests, who’s going to provide the best content for my audience. But if I can turn them into an affiliate, that’s what we want to do, and we’ll walk you through to do it.

So I’m going to look and find some authors. Just going to scroll through. I knew she had that coming out at the end of June. I’m going to look at some of these people and I’m going to reach out to them. We’ll talk about that a little bit.

So I’m going to find these people on Amazon, these people who have books coming out, and then I’m going to invite them, which we’ll talk about in a little bit, to be on the podcast. So if they’ve got a launch coming up, a product launch, get on their affiliate list.

So you can find them on Amazon. That’s great. But also, if they’ve got a launch coming up, be on their affiliate list. Just be on people’s affiliate list. You want to be affiliates, something else that’s important to them. Maybe they’ve got a cause, maybe they’re supporting a charity and they really want to talk about that charity.

Then if that’s a decent fit, then have them come on, follow them on social media and invite them to talk about something specific that they’ve been sharing. Now, to be clear, you can use this process. I talked about this earlier.

You can use this process from time to time to get some whale guests. Like I’ve used this method. I’ve gone to Amazon and I’ve gotten guests that I had no business getting. I had the former on my old podcast, which you can’t even find. Maybe you can find the archive somewhere. But we took it down off the hosting platform three years ago. But I had a show.

It was called the World Changer Show. And I interviewed just really cool people, mostly in personal growth and things like that. But I had just some of the most amazing guests. I had Dr. Dale Archer, who is one of the leading ADHD doctors. And I see I have ADHD so bad I couldn’t even finish saying ADHD. But he’s one of the leading ADHD doctors in the world.

I had a former ambassador to the United Nations. I had people that had, like massive audiences. All of these people that I had on my podcast before I had any business having them on. I had Dr. Dale Archer when I had like 700 downloads an episode.

This guy can go on and get major media like, he can be on Fox News and CNN and MSNBC, and he’s doing the Matt McWilliams podcast. It’s ridiculous. I had some of these books back here, books that I got from authors, Roy Vaden – Procrastinate on Purpose, Hacking Growth. These are all people.

I’m trying to think of some of the other ones that I got before I was like, really anybody? I had barely any listeners whatsoever. I know I had one called The Leading Brain. I had another one that I remember the guest.

I cannot remember the name of it, but this guest was like one of the leading lecturers in the entire world on different things related to psychology and mental health. And I remember she was the one that taught me that if you go back to your old journals, I don’t know if you have any doodlers on live, but if you’re a doodler, someone who’s sitting in a meeting and you doodle and you go back and retrace what you drew, you can literally remember things will come back to you.

Remember who was sitting where and what they were wearing and all that stuff, right? So reach out to those whales. Just don’t expect them to become affiliates. And one of the cool things about that is that if you can get one or two whales on your show, then when you’re reaching out to those people that we talked about, the ones that are a level up or two levels above you, then you can name drop those people for future reach out.

So you can reach out, Maria, and say to somebody who’s a level or two above you that you want to be an affiliate. “Hey, would you come on my podcast, I’ve interviewed so and so and so and so.” Like I said, I mean, I did this when I had basically no listeners back in the day, and it worked really well.

So step two, just to recap, step two was to find a reason for them to be a guest. Step three is to seed the relationship. Seed the relationship. Interact with them on social media. Interact with them on social media. Engage with them.

One of the keys here is to look for posts that have almost no engagement. So when you log into Facebook, for example, the way their algorithm works is it’s going to show you the post with the most engagement.

So you log in and the first 20 things you see are probably things that have the most engagement. I want you to look for something that as you’re going through, look for something that was posted a day or more ago that has almost no engagement.

Now, if they’re super famous Elon Musk, for example, he tweets anything. There’s literally 30,000 replies on his lowest engagement post. So you’re never going to break through that one. Okay, that’s not it. But look for the ones that maybe only have one or two or seven replies or zero.

I found something like guys, I know people that they’re in my target list, and I’ll see a post from two days ago that has two likes, zero comments. I comment on that one. They see that I stand out. I’m the only person who commented on that.

So look for those posts with low engagements. The whole idea is to see this relationship before we reach out. See this relationship. Look for posts with low engagement and engage with those, reply to their emails. Tag them on social media, quote them on social media and put on where it says like you put the dash in their name. Put on so and so.

Say, I learned a powerful lesson from so and so today. Comment if you want to interview them about an upcoming book, talk on social media about their last book. And you don’t want to bombard them by showing up on their timeline every single day.

That’s kind of stalkerish. But just periodically start seeding that relationship. You do all this before step four, which is to reach out and invite them to be a guest. Reach out to them. Now, this email, Maria, said it best earlier. She said the reason why they would want to be on your show is exposure for them.

So we’re going to make it all about them. “Hey, I noticed you have a book coming out, a launch coming up, or you’ve been talking a lot about such and such. Would you be interested in coming on my podcast to talk more about it and of course, sell some books or make some more sales during your launch,” things like that.

Step five, I’ll get to that in a minute to nurture the relationship. But step five would actually be now that I think about it, is to do the podcast and really take advantage of the time. I didn’t include this in the outline for today, but take the time for five minutes before the podcast and for five minutes after to develop a little bit of a relationship.

Now, if you get 25 minutes, I would rather you only take 20 minutes to do the podcast and leave five minutes before and after for a minute or two a minute before and four minutes after to talk than to just be like I got to go 25 minutes on the podcast because then there’s no relationship whatsoever.

There’s none. Step four B would be to actually do the episode and do it well. I hate to say this kind of sounds lame, but if you suck at interviewing, then learn how to interview, listen to interviews, take some courses on how to do interviews.

Interview some really lower people. just for practice. Biggest tip I can give you for an interviewing is have a list of a few questions that you want to ask. But don’t just go question one, question to question three, question four, ask follow up questions.

Challenge them a little bit on something. Ask them different things that they might be like as they answer your previous questions. Don’t just go immediately to the next question. Think about what you could ask in terms of a follow up.

So invite them to be a guest on the show and then make sure that you actually do the interview and do it well. And then step five is to nurture the relationship. So we’re going to take this we’re trying to take this from just getting them on the show to how do we turn them into a partner, an affiliate for the long term.

So you continue to nurture the relationship. You continue to interact on social media. It doesn’t stop once you get them. In fact, you book it for three weeks from now, continue to share their stuff just like you were before you booked the interview so that they’re showing up and going like, “Holy crap, man. Dude, you’re sharing my stuff all the time. That’s amazing.”

I make it a point that if I was scheduling an interview, let’s just say today that I scheduled an interview with somebody for let’s just say next Wednesday. I make it a point that I’m going to be mentioning them on social media sometime between now and the end of the weekend and again on Monday or Tuesday and again on the morning that we’re going to talk, I’ll schedule it.

So if we’re talking at three in the afternoon, I make sure that something goes out mentioning them like five, six in the morning. So it shows up when they wake up in the morning, boom, they’re going over their calendar. They already went the night before and they’re seeing me mentioning them.

I’m making sure that I’m replying to something of theirs at least once, if not two or three times in the week leading up to that interview. And then afterwards, I’m going to continue to do that. I’m going to continue to nurture the relationship. I’m going to continue.

This is a big one to promote their episodes frequently. So this is something Joe Fear said. Joe Fear from Pod Hacker shared with me the other day when I talked with him. We had an episode this past Tuesday.

If you haven’t had a chance to listen to that, it’s really good. Let me drop that link here in just a second. So I talked to him and he’s like, “dude, you still promote the first interview that we did together.

You still promote that.” So here, guys, I’m going to drop the link to my interview with Joe Fear. And he’s like, man, I’m getting notifications all the time about you. So I’m always like, top of mind for him. Promote their products. If you can become an affiliate, follow up with them periodically.

Send them a happy birthday message, write them a note, share a success story. If you bought something from them and it’s working for you, then talk about that. Share that right. Build that relationship. And then and only then is it time to ask them to be an affiliate.

Now we ask them to be an affiliate. Now we reach out to them and here’s what we say. “Man, your episode has been so popular with the audience, people are loving it. I’m assuming that you’re going to get some positive feedback on it.

Maybe you share some of that positive feedback. That’s another thing. Part of nurturing the relationship is periodically sharing some of that positive feedback. Like anytime somebody tweets you, Facebook messages, you, emails, you text you, whatever and says, Man, I loved your episode with so and so I did this with one guest in particular.

I got a lot of positive comments. And in fact, I got so many I got like, I don’t know, it was like twelve to 15. It wasn’t a hundred. But I got like twelve to 15 positive comments in the first couple of days that I would save them.

And I didn’t just say, dude, we got like ten positive comments. I would like to say, hey, we got a couple of amazing comments. And then like five days later, hey, look, there’s another couple more. And then finally I asked him to be an affiliate and he turned out to be a very good affiliate for us over the years, probably one of our top probably seven affiliates for our stuff over the years.

That all happened. When I sent that email, one of the things I pointed out was that people loved your episode. People absolutely loved your episode. So I’m wondering, “Hey, I think your audience would like our stuff. Here’s how we can best serve your audience.” So step six is to ask them to be an affiliate.

That’s going to get you one affiliate. So how do we turn this into something that dramatically increases our total number of affiliates? When we do step seven, which is we ask them if they know anybody who would be a great guest.

So now we’re partners, they’re promoting us, we’re promoting them. We’ve probably at this point been on each other shows. Now when I say, hey, do you know anybody else who’d be a great guest? And you repeat the process so they introduce you to Sammy Smith and you don’t know Sammy, but immediately you go start interacting with Sammy on social media.

You schedule the interview for three weeks from now. That’s why I love scheduling interviews out, like in advance. If I schedule the interview for next week, I don’t have time to really nurture the relationship in advance of the interview.

So if we schedule it for three, four weeks from now. I can interact with them on social media. I can maybe buy something of theirs, read their book, whatever it is, really get to know what’s going on in their world and develop that relationship.

So when they show up for the interview, we’ve already been interacting. There’s a pretty good chance that if I’m showing up a lot on their social media and I’m emailing them, they’re going to look me up and they’re going to be like, “hey, I looked into your stuff, man.

That’s kind of cool you got going on. It’s pretty cool.” And we talked about that. So we talk for 1012 minutes before we even do the interview. Then we do the interview and we talk for another 1012 minutes. And guys, this happens over and over and over again.

Why never, if at all possible, book an interview in like a very small period of time. I have time. We’re going to do a 40 minute interview. I book it for at least an hour and a half. And so that we have plenty of time. And I can’t tell you how many times I finished those interviews and we’re still just yapping away 20 minutes after finally we’re like, oh, crap, we gotta go, you know, we got to go.

That sucks. But we’ve got stuff to do. So you just repeat this process over and over again. So that’s how that works. Now, if you are just starting a podcast or maybe even if you’ve had one for a while.

You’ve had a podcast for a while, you’re looking for something, some sort of a system to get started, some sort of a system to scale. I shared a pretty good chunk of it here. This is a great way.

What we talked about was a great way not only to get great guests and build that authority. The thing about authority is if you get somebody who’s at a level that’s significantly higher than you or even just a couple, not just higher than you, their authority kind of sprinkle their little authority dust on you.

Not only might they share that podcast episode with their audience and you pick up ten or 20 new listeners. That’s great. You pick up ten or 20 new listeners. Awesome sauce. Those ten or 20 might become fans and they introduce you to some other people. And if you do this enough, you can pick up thousands of extra listeners just from interviewing people.

But also people begin to see like, man, you got so and so on. You got so and so on. You got some good Juju going. But if you’re looking for a system, kind of a plug and play system for starting growing and monetizing your podcast, if you listen to my interview earlier this week with Joe Fear, I mentioned earlier, I dropped to that link earlier to that podcast.

You can go listen to that. But he talks about his program Podhacker and so I’m going to put a link up on the screen here just MattMcwilliams.com/podhacker I will tell you what happened when I met Joe and Matt, Joe Fear and Matt Wolf from Pod hacker.

I met them right before the pandemic like three weeks before the pandemic we did a live event down back when you did those things right.

I know we’re back to doing those now but it was like we went like two years without doing them and if it had been like a month later we wouldn’t have been able to do it which would have sucked but anyway we met and these guys I’ll give you the stats it took me about 350 ish episodes to get to a million downloads.

Long time to get to a million downloads. That’s five years. Roughly four or five years. It only took me about 70 basically like 13-14 months to get to 2 million vastly accelerated after meeting them and using what they teach.

So if you want to watch my video I actually recorded a video for them and sent it to Matt and Joe about a year ago or so. If you go to mattmcwilliams.com you scroll down like a quarter a third of the way you’ll see my face like a giant face of mind up there.

You can go check that out and see what it actually did for me there. It’s got tons of amazing stuff. Again, the link, https://mattmcwilliams.com/podhacker I won’t go through everything, but just some of the best people in the world who talk about growing and monetizing your podcast.

Like there’s some guy named Matt McWilliams in there that I don’t know. He’s all right. Tons of templates, like the exact templates that they use. These guys have built a huge podcast from basically nothing. They’re making well over seven figures just from their podcast.

They’re doing exactly what we talked about today. They’ve got all the templates and systems for doing this. They’ve got just tons of growth strategies in there, guys, all stuff from all the biggest podcasters out there.

So if you go to https://mattmcwilliams.com/podhacker you can get access to that. It’s very reasonably priced, in my opinion. In fact, I think it’s vastly underpriced, but that’s my personal opinion. If you’re not sure about it, go check out that interview that I did with Joe. I dropped the link earlier with Joe Fear.

Go check that out and you’ll learn a little bit more about it and see if it’s right for you. What things we talked about in that episode that I’ll share with you here is we’ve got some exclusive bonuses. So if you sign up for Pod Hacker this week, I think it’s through.

I think you got like five or six days. I don’t want to put a false scarcity on it, but it’s like five or six days I can’t remember until next Tuesday. So if we’re doing this live, maybe that’s seven days. Five days, something like that. I’m really terrible at math right now.

Some number of days in the reasonably near future. How about that? If you join Pod Hacker before the deadline, then you’re going to get some exclusive bonuses from us. I’m going to walk you through how we launched our podcast.

When I launched my podcast, we were one of the top podcasts on all of itunes for a couple of weeks. And that kind of kept us up there and helped us grow pretty quickly. I’m going to show you how we did that, how we built the launch team and what we did with them.

I’m going to walk you through some other stuff, like how to monetize your podcast. There’s some exclusive content from Joe that he did just for my audience that you’ll get access to as well. So I got tons of good stuff there.

When you join through mattmcwilliams.com/podhacker So a quick recap. Number one, identify the people that you want to be on your show. Identify those potential guests, people who’ve got something coming up, a book or whatnot, find a reason for them to be a guest, seed the relationship, then invite them to be a guest, obviously do the episode and make sure that you have some time on either side to chat with them and just get to know them a little bit better. Step five, nurture that relationship.

Step six, ask them to be an affiliate in step seven, ask them if they know anyone who’d be a great guest, you know, make sure that you continue to share their stuff and continue to nurture that relationship. This is not a one and done thing.

So as we wrap up, make sure you go check out mattmcwilliams.com/podhacker and I always at the end of the day, that here’s what we have coming up next, come back next week because we’re going to be talking about this. Well, things are changing a little bit.

There is no next week and there’s not even a week after that or even a week after a week after that. So 21 days from now will be live again. We’re changing the way that we do this and here’s how we’re going to do them going forward. More than likely, they will still be on Thursdays.

They’ll probably start a little bit earlier. Rather than going live every single week for 35, 45 minutes, sometimes an hour, we’re going to go live once a month and I’m actually going to be live for about three to 4 hours. And when you join live, you’re going to get access to a few things. It’s still totally free.

There’s no charge for this. Just to be clear, when you join live, you’re actually going to get to see us kind of behind the scenes produce the content. So you’re going to get early access to podcast episodes up to six, seven weeks in advance. I’m going to record the podcast episodes live. I may regret this.

You guys have no idea how many times I screw up. If you’ve ever listened to the podcast. They’re not highly edited, but it’s just like for me, being on live, like I’m going to right now, I’m thirsty, so I’m going to take a sip. We would edit that out of course.

You have no idea how often I do that and how often I just kind of stumble over my words because I talk kind of fast and I say the wrong thing and I’m like, oh, crap, back ups. And then I’ll be silent for 5 seconds and then I’ll start back over and it sounds very polished. Not too polished.

Like we don’t want it to sound so polished because I don’t script the podcast. I typically operate off about a screen. About a screen worth of bullets, maybe more like a half screen. It’s a big screen. So I got a half screen of bullets. And that way I know where I’m going. And I’m not like, oh, step three was such and such.

What was step four? I don’t remember. Sometimes I just forget things. So I keep the screen in front of me. But I mess up sometimes. I’ll write a note and then I’m like, I don’t even remember what I meant by that note. It’s like talking about such and such. I’m like, Dang it. What was that? I have to be like, I don’t know.

So you guys are going to get live access to that. Like you get to watch all my screw ups in between each episode. We’re going to take Q and A. So any questions that you have, I’m going to answer them live. And so we’ll basically record an episode and then you ask questions live so you get all the questions answered.

Hopefully if we get too many, I can’t answer them all. So we’ll probably go live at roughly noon Eastern, give or take, maybe 12:30. We’ll see. Still trying to work out the schedule. I think we’re planning on going live at 12:30 on the 19th. I know may 19 is the next one and then we’ll go live about once a month.

Usually about the second Thursday, sometimes third Thursday of the month. We just couldn’t do that because I had stuff previously scheduled. So definitely Mark your calendars. Actually, I can tell you.

I can pull open this and go to May 19. Twelve Eastern time, May 19. The affiliate guy live is what we’re calling it. “Hey, Doug, the affiliate guy live. So we’ll be the same places https://mattmcwilliams.com/taglive that’ll take you to either place where we live stream these”.

Alan and I will be on. And like I said, you’ll get behind the scenes access to us creating the next month’s podcast but also get time to ask questions and some other fun stuff. So I don’t know. We’ll be doing some giveaways and all kinds of interesting stuff. We’ll see how they go.

So it’ll be an experiment. We’ll probably do it for about three months. Reassess. Is this working? Is it not? I’m always experimenting to see what’s going to work best for you guys.

So we’d love to have you join us to go ahead and Mark your calendars. We’ll send out some reminders about a week before May 19 Eastern Time.

Hopefully you’ll see you then. But this will be our last one for a little while.

So until then, have an awesome end of this month and an awesome beginning to May and we’ll see you soon.

See you guys.



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